The level of debate;


42865. Did they get O'Reilly & Hannity?
by BerthaKraus, 8/14/06 14:38 ET
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060814/ts_nm/mideast_gaza_kidnapping_dc_3&printer=1
Two Fox News journalists kidnapped in Gaza: witness
1 hour, 24 minutes ago
Palestinian gunmen kidnapped two foreign journalists working for the Fox News television channel in Gaza on Monday, a witness said.
The witness, a Palestinian who worked with the two journalists, said one of them, a producer, was an American, and the other, whose nationality he did not know, was a cameraman.
The Fox News bureau in Jerusalem said it was checking the report.
There was no immediate claim of responsibility for the abduction.
The witness said two vehicles blocked the journalist's transmission truck in the center of Gaza City and a masked man put a gun to the bodyguard's head, forcing him to the ground.
The kidnappers then sped away with the two journalists.
Similar incidents in the past in Gaza have ended with the release, usually within hours, of kidnapped foreign journalists or aid workers.
Many of the abductions were carried out by Palestinians pressing a grievance against the Palestinian government or its security forces.


. More lies
by Flooty, 8/14/06 16:39 ET
Re: Did they get O'Reilly & Hannity? by BerthaKraus, 8/14/06
there's no such thing as a "journalist" at Fox

42865.1.1. Yeah, those FOX
by Shirl, 8/14/06 18:24 ET
Re: Did they get O'Reilly & Hannity? by BerthaKraus, 8/14/06
Guys can't hold a candle to the likes of Dan Rather and Mike Wallace. I wonder who at CBS will be "invited" to interview that little tyrant in North Korea.



Hi Shirl, the type of response to two

Journalist being kidnapped in the Middle East, is typical from these types of posters. Regardless of network affiliation, these acts should be viewed as both an occupational hazard as well as a marketing ploy by the kidnappers. The fact that Fox is demonized by those who prefer only one side of the story is nothing new. They deny the credentials, validity of reporting, etc of any reporter affiliated with Murdoch's organization, and completely ignore reports from sources they value (Reuters, AP) when it suits them. What is new and disturbing is the rhetoric against the journalist (contractor, member of the US military, anyone who disagrees with the socialist point of view). These types of comments coming out of east and west coast blogs and newspaper forums (low brow, low class, unkind and unnecessary) are effectively used by grassroots campaign staffs in other parts of the country. Copied and pasted into mass emails, with links further proves that those who affiliate themselves with the dnc (but are truly not democrats), cannot be trusted with America's future. Depending on what side of the fence you sit upon, this might be good news or news not to be believed as it does not fit into a neat little box.

Hard news, by the way, was invented by Dan Rather, who is one of O'Reilly's hero's. Mike Wallace also was responsible for hard news stories (any reporter going into a war zone deserves respect) now; both men are old and not necessarily wiser. (Only because they either cannot or chose not to hide the fact that they are liberal socialist)

The number of journalists killed, imprisoned, kidnapped each year is astounding. Most of those are not reported simply because it does not suit anyone's particular agenda. They are the Iraqi, Iranian, Russian, Korean, French, Italian, Columbian and Mexican journalists.

My prayers are with the two Fox employees (one journalist, one cameraman), as well as all of those who have risked life and limb in an attempt to bring a particular truth to the world.

Marketing ploy: kidnapped journalists are normally ransomed by the corporation or country of origin, the terrorists (as in Palestinian, Hezbollah, AlQueda, etc.) expect press coverage as well as funds. American's and the French appear to be most at risk, due to the ability to pay and report.

Just a note Shirl, any conservative worth their salt will celebrate the fact that these forums exist. Attempting to have an intelligent debate with those so blinded by hate and ideology, is, for the most part useless. Forum posters (as well as blog posters, check out the daily kos, it's about part), appear cult like with their repeated posts, undying devotion to a cause, and refusal to face a truth when it slaps them in the face.

Enjoy!